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		<title>By: Network Monitoring Logic at mario a. spinthiras</title>
		<link>http://www.spinthiras.net/2008/07/17/network-monitoring/comment-page-1/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Network Monitoring Logic at mario a. spinthiras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] barrier for tasks and doesn&#8217;t really do what it could have done more accurately. I have had many thoughts in the past about monitoring systems and how they could have been developed and this is no re-wirite , this is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] barrier for tasks and doesn&#8217;t really do what it could have done more accurately. I have had many thoughts in the past about monitoring systems and how they could have been developed and this is no re-wirite , this is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: B. Brunes</title>
		<link>http://www.spinthiras.net/2008/07/17/network-monitoring/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Brunes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you have a look at NAV - Network Administration Visualized?
Have a look at http://metanav.uninett.no/

regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you have a look at NAV - Network Administration Visualized?<br />
Have a look at <a href="http://metanav.uninett.no/" rel="nofollow">http://metanav.uninett.no/</a></p>
<p>regards</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.spinthiras.net/2008/07/17/network-monitoring/comment-page-1/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all thanks for using Zenoss, it sounds like you're quite the demanding sysadmin, I hope we can continue to evolve to meet your needs.  While Zenoss doesn't provide every feature you mention, our goal is to provide a flexible, easy-to-administer platform that suits the needs most admins and can be extended to provide whatever may be missing.  So thanks for the feedback and please stay active in the Community and let us know what we can do to continue to be your monitoring platform of choice.

Thanks,
Matt Ray
Zenoss Community Manager
mray@zenoss.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all thanks for using Zenoss, it sounds like you&#8217;re quite the demanding sysadmin, I hope we can continue to evolve to meet your needs.  While Zenoss doesn&#8217;t provide every feature you mention, our goal is to provide a flexible, easy-to-administer platform that suits the needs most admins and can be extended to provide whatever may be missing.  So thanks for the feedback and please stay active in the Community and let us know what we can do to continue to be your monitoring platform of choice.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Matt Ray<br />
Zenoss Community Manager<br />
<a href="mailto:mray@zenoss.com">mray@zenoss.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
		<link>http://www.spinthiras.net/2008/07/17/network-monitoring/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your feedback.

Peter I have had a lot of experience with nagios and I have also successfully deployed scripts in the passed that allow you to ensure proper architecture with nagios based on real network architecture (thank god for CDP , snmp and all the rest).

Unfortunately the problem is in the software. Nagios is time consuming to configure and the structure cannot allow you to define many standardized practices today in networking. As for dotcom monitor , well you cannot deploy a monitoring system for an NSP grade network using an online service now can you ?

Hazard , first off please allow me to apologize on behalf of the wp plugin that tags the site. As for complex network topology mapping and monitoring , I believe it can be done by bringing in the "wrongs" from the software in a corrected form into the lower layers in the form of a standard protocol , much like LLDP can do for you today but with a little bit of "art" in it. I am only referring to the same kind of automation that exists in many functions in IP.

A project that deals with such automated features is ANA (Autonomic Network Architecture) which I have looked into recently and seems to promise quite a few automated features to some approaches on IP. The same thing can be applicable to a lower layer protocol that would assist your network in keeping its socks up (including the administrator) through the use of intelligent network monitoring and mapping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your feedback.</p>
<p>Peter I have had a lot of experience with nagios and I have also successfully deployed scripts in the passed that allow you to ensure proper architecture with nagios based on real network architecture (thank god for CDP , snmp and all the rest).</p>
<p>Unfortunately the problem is in the software. Nagios is time consuming to configure and the structure cannot allow you to define many standardized practices today in networking. As for dotcom monitor , well you cannot deploy a monitoring system for an NSP grade network using an online service now can you ?</p>
<p>Hazard , first off please allow me to apologize on behalf of the wp plugin that tags the site. As for complex network topology mapping and monitoring , I believe it can be done by bringing in the &#8220;wrongs&#8221; from the software in a corrected form into the lower layers in the form of a standard protocol , much like LLDP can do for you today but with a little bit of &#8220;art&#8221; in it. I am only referring to the same kind of automation that exists in many functions in IP.</p>
<p>A project that deals with such automated features is ANA (Autonomic Network Architecture) which I have looked into recently and seems to promise quite a few automated features to some approaches on IP. The same thing can be applicable to a lower layer protocol that would assist your network in keeping its socks up (including the administrator) through the use of intelligent network monitoring and mapping.</p>
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		<title>By: hazard</title>
		<link>http://www.spinthiras.net/2008/07/17/network-monitoring/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>hazard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think that you will ever get any complex network which can be monitored automatically without tweaking. The only way to achieve that is by using standardized network designs, which won't happen IMO.

Also I want to say that auto-linking of various words to tags is quite distracting. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that you will ever get any complex network which can be monitored automatically without tweaking. The only way to achieve that is by using standardized network designs, which won&#8217;t happen IMO.</p>
<p>Also I want to say that auto-linking of various words to tags is quite distracting. <img src='http://www.spinthiras.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.spinthiras.net/2008/07/17/network-monitoring/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, quite interesting article. thanks for that. But seems that you have mentioned only Zenoss. Take a look at Nagios at www.nagios.org or Dotcom Monitor at http://www.dotcom-monitor.com The first is open source software, has a lot of features. But you have to poesess tech skills to set it up. The second one is free and paid online service, very powerful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, quite interesting article. thanks for that. But seems that you have mentioned only Zenoss. Take a look at Nagios at <a href="http://www.nagios.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.nagios.org</a> or Dotcom Monitor at <a href="http://www.dotcom-monitor.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dotcom-monitor.com</a> The first is open source software, has a lot of features. But you have to poesess tech skills to set it up. The second one is free and paid online service, very powerful.</p>
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